[Alternate title: The Vote on the TRC That Should Never Have Been Forced Upon Us]
Here it is 2AM and sleep is not going to come anytime soon. I might as well blog and get this out of my system instead of tossing and turning. Let's hope I am coherent enough after that 7-hour council marathon to explain what happened - and hope I don't later regret what I write.
The original resolution was nothing more than a feel-good, namby-pamby statement that had no real substance beyond "the shootout was a bad thing and we don't want anything like that to happen again." So how did we end up passing a motion to "oppose the TRC" on a divisive 6-3 vote after everyone of us had previously expressed our disgust and sorrow that the shootout ever occurred in the first place?
The short answer is "lack of trust" -
* lack of trust in the process itself as I have articulated ad nauseum in previous posts,
* lack of trust in the way media would interpret any resolution, no matter how benign, based on past performances,
* lack of trust in the GTCRP and how that endorsement action would be manipulated to denote much, much more,
* and saddest of all, my loss of trust in a fellow councilmember who violated a negotiated agreement when she introduced a resolution councilmembers had mutually agreed would not be introduced. [Please note my clarification and apology on this point.]
There's no need to expound on the first two; I think they are pretty clear. But the last two need some further explanation.
My concern about how the GTCRP would "use" any positive action is based on their previous behavior when Mayor Holliday named Judge Lawrence McSwain to the commission selection committee. The Mayor was quite reluctant to get involved in that early process since he did not want it to be interpreted as supporting the TRC . Upon assurances by some members of the GTCRP that such participation would not be used to suggest that he was in support, he appointed Judge McSwain to participate. It didn't take long at all before various written and oral comments started coming from the GTCRP to the effect of "See, the mayor is supporting this effort by making this appointment." So much for their assurances! I adhere to the old adage "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on ME!"
I was absolutely shocked that Claudette forced a vote on this issue by introducing the resolution. The mayor had been meeting with 2-3 councilmembers at a time over the past several days to work out a compromise solution and avoid splitting the council with a negative outcome. In fact, he actually wrote the resolution that was introduced in hopes that we could get a 9-0 vote in suppport of it and present a unified front. However, opposition to that resolution was expressed by a couple of folks so he scrapped that idea. The final "gentleman's agreement" that I understood was that we would each express our own heartfelt opinions on the subject and let it go at that with no motions at all being made. That would let the public know how we felt individually without officially "torpedo-ing" the TRC process. Unfortunately the agreement was violated, and we now have to live with the consequences.
This did not have to happen! I know that NONE OF US ARE HAPPY ABOUT THE RESULTS -- EVERYBODY LOST ON THIS ONE. It's issues like this that makes me absolutely hate politics sometimes.
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"It's issues like this that makes me absolutely hate politics sometimes"
Yeah! Me, too!
The 6-3 vote was not good or can we look at it as the 6-3 Image? I was very disapointed in our City Council's decision that was made tonight on the TRC... This really displayed the cities true colors tonight! Sandy I have made a voice post on my site please take a moment to listen to it. May God continue to bless us all....and give the world strength to carry on...
The questionable behind the scenes maneuvering by the Council and their final vote is a complete failure of city leadership. The Commission should have been pro-active and ask that this vote not occur. They cannot continue to allow the Project to speak for them in our community. The Project started their whole presentation to the community over two years ago with a very one sided, pro-survivor film that clearly showed they had a specific agenda. Some in the community and on the City Council already think that the survivors of Nov. 3rd and their Greensboro Truth & Community Reconciliation Project has undue influence on the Commission. Most people, however, do not even know that there is a difference between the Project and the Commission. It is time that the Commission starts acting like an independent, objective and legitimate group. I hope that the many mistakes of the Greensboro experience with Truth & Reconciliation will provide other communities with the knowledge that a far better model is needed. I hope other communities also have wiser help and assistance from their city government.
Sandy:
Your nickle-per-hour pay has got to be at the penny level by now.
Thnk you for all thetime and common sense you put into you job.
We need you at the next level.
Rich J.
The entire thing just seems to me to be trying to go back and re-live the past. This thing has been hashed and re-hashed to death. As tragic of a situation as it was, can we go back and change what happened? Wouldn't life be great if we could all go back and correct the horrible circumstances in our lives and in the lives of those around us? Unfortunatley, that is impossible. To continue to keep playing this over and over again will change nothing. It will however, cause a huge divide to keep getting larger. Seems to me that it is time for all involved either directly or indirectly to stand up straight and move on. If the time ever comes that we can turn back the clock and hit an "undo" button, then we can revist Nov. 1979.
Having lived here for 10 years, and not being here when the shootings occurred, I had many questions about this whole situation.
The best I can ascertain is that the GTRC does have a point! And, racism does play a role! If you think it doesn't then simply look at one of the organizations: KKK. No, they have nothing to do with race....NOT.
You know, if all the people who oppose the commission get involved in the process and make their voices known, then maybe the truth will see the light of day. By opting out of the process, you ensure that the commission will present exactly what you say it will present anyway. As a constituent, I wish you had thought to hold a district meeting to ask US what we thought rather than just making up your mind on an issue that affects us all.
I live in your district and support your stand on this issue. It is time to move on. We have other bigger problems to address. Thank you for your service.
Thank you Sandy! This whole idea is totally stupid and will do nothing but hurt race relations - as if Skip doesn't do enough of that for the whole County! Why don't we re-visit the Civil War, the Selma March, and other events to see who we can go blame. Come on Council members who votred in favor of this time-wasting effort -get a life! Oh yea, why don't you spend as much effort in trying to get the money back for taxpayers that all your special interest groups stole!
You know we do continue to examine these events in history. We also continue seach for answers to complex problems in our society.
I am dissapointed in the council's decision. I'm tired of people trying to sweep racial issues under the rug and would rather not talk about them. This community needs to stop sticking its head in the sand because racism is still widespread across this city and the south. The outcome of the vote is unfortunate because it leaves the "impression" that there is racism on city council.
Ive heard the comment over and over that we need to move forward and not look back. But sometimes you have to look back to move forward. The council should have supported this. until there is closure, this issue is just going to keep coming up and fighting it only makes matters worse.
Thanks to all of you for sharing your comments. I apologize for taking so long to respond, but I am totally wiped out today plus had a couple of meetings and another episode in an ongoing family matter to deal with. Time and energy have been severely lacking today!
{I'm also going to address some of the issues raised in the comments on Hogg's Blog. "Radio" absolutley will not let me comment on his (or Ed's)site - the few things that have been posted there were things I emailed directly to David who was kind enough to post them for me.)
First, it's obvious to me that the same range of opinions expressed by city council members are a mirror of the opinions found in the larger community. Whether I agree or disagree with you, I respect your right to have that opinion and hope that you can respect mine as well. Differences are what keeps this world interesting.
Regarding jw's concern about council's "behind the scenes" meetings - These are NOT deal-making sessions. I cannot recall EVER being in one of these where votes were negotiated or nailed down. These private conversations are sometimes essential for an honest airing and sharing of sensitive issues that absolutely would not take place otherwise. I can tell you there was some VERY BLUNT things said during my meeting as well as confidential information shared by another councilmember that never could have been said in public discussion - these led to better understanding of others' stances. Unless someone wants to follow me around 24 hours a day, there's no way the public is going to be privy to every word that I hear or say about city matters. Communication probably occurs every day between individual council members in some fashion (person-to-person, email, phone calls, etc.)and that enhances our working relationships and teamwork (most of the time).
Roch - Sorry for your (our?)confusion. Another example of "long-meeting-late-at-night" consequences. Whatever the wording of Robbie's motion was, my intent is as I stated - I'm not endorsing the process and will neither hinder nor assist it. Period!
Next issue - At least one member of the TRC, Mark Sills, DID publicly say he did not want the city council to endorse or take a stand until AFTER the TRC had completed its work. And interestingly, Yvonne Johnson shared in our private meeting with the mayor that Joyce Johnson (GTCRP member and wife of Nelson Johnson)had phoned her and requested that the city council NOT VOTE. Knowing that was another reason for my shock when the motion was made at the council meeting.
To Bruce - The council's vote did nothing to prevent you from participating in the TRC process anymore than endorsing it would have assisted you. Your right and ability to do so is unchanged, and I encourage you to get involved if you are interested. The TRC phone number is 230-0001.
Call me clueless if you like, but I have never viewed the Nov. 3 incident as a racial incident. To me, it was a senseless clash of zealots on opposite extremes of the political spectrum who imposed themselves on an innocent neighborhood.
And for the 100th time, I'm not trying to stop the TRC process. I'm saying don't ask me to "bless" it until their work is complete (as stated by Mr. Sills, one of the TRC commissioners).
Sandy, I find your explainations self-contradictory. Let's look at the facts.
Who "forced a vote on the TRC?" It clearly wasn't Claudette. Her motion was, as you say, a "mamby-pmaby statement that had no real substance." The motion that forced a vote on the TRC was made by Robbie Perkins and seconded by Topm Phippis. If anybody force a vote on the TRC upon you, it was Perkins and Phillips, yet you voted in favor.
You had said during discussion and even repeat it above that your intentions were to neither assit or hinder the process, yet you voted to oppose it. Sorry, Sandy, with all due respect, that's lip service that insults the intelligence of people who are paying attention. You honestly don't think that voting to oppose the TRC will hinder it? If not, what would be the purpose of voting to oppose it? Here's the ultimate question. Why didn't you vote to oppose Pekins' motion, leaving your official actions nuetral on the matter?
If your position were truely as you wanted us to belive, you would have voted against Perkins' motion and against Burroughs White's motion.
In brief, what stuck out most to me was some very childish, petty and vindictive behavior on the City Council. From "I've been treated rudely" to "We shouldn't be forced into this decision." Oh, boo hoo. Cry me a river. City council members taking the flack from a highly charged issues. Imagine that. Hurt feelinds are no grounds for a wise decision.
I won't ramble on about the poor showing by other Council members, but Sandy, in your case, your rhetoric did not match your actions, and people really don't like that in elected officials.
Another question, Sandy. What were you opposing by voting in favor of Robbie's motion to opppose the Truth and Reconciliation "program?" Was this a vote to oppose the GT&CR Project, the GT&R Commission, both or something else entirely? Do you think it was universally understood among Council just exactly what it was they were voting to oppose?
Roch,
I don't want to argue about who forced the vote. All I believe is that Robbie's motion would never have been made if Claudette had not started the ball rolling, so I based my comments on that.
You make good suggestions about "what might have been" - hindsight is 20/20. However I was not at my best and nor thinking clearly or strategically, having been caught totally off guard as well as being mentally exhausted at that late hour. I wasn't into nuances of language at that point - I was exhausted, had an aching back (too much yardwork over the weekend), and just wanted to finish that discussion and get out of there. But even I had been totally fresh and clear-headed at the time, it would have been disingenuous to take a "neutral" postion as you suggest because I am definitely not neutral on this issue as evidenced by my previous posts.
Through my vote, I was expressing my concern with the GTCRP process and the flaws that I perceive to be imbedded in it and my displeasure over how the whole thing has been handled to this point. I was letting the public know officially (for those who do not read my blog) that I not support it nor would I be personally participating in it or assisting or hindering anyone who did choose to do so. Allen Johnson's editorial in today's paper echoes my sentiments - that the council's vote didn't have much impact beyond clarifiying council's position.
You'll have to poll other council members about what they understood - they will have to speak for themselves.
I appreciate the conversation going on here about the TRC process and just need to make a minor correction. The telephone number for the Commission office is actually 275-6462. Sandy listed the number for the Greensboro Truth and Community Reconciliation Project, from which the Commission is independent. The Commission has its own office, staff, funding and telephone number. Everything else Sandy said in that paragraph, however, was absolutely correct. We very much hope that Bruce and everyone else participating in these discussions will share their opinions with the Commission through a formal statement or an informal, off-the-record conversation. Just give us a call at any time.
That said, I hope you will keep your conversations going here. The honest perspectives shared by City Council members at the meeting and by all citizens on blogs like this are the most important first steps toward truth and reconciliation in Greensboro. (Please visit the Commission's blog--www.gtrc.blogspot.com--for a more complete reaction.)
Jill Williams
Executive Director
Greensboro Truth and Reconciliation Commission
roch101..sandy & others said council had made a deal re:gtr. claudette said there was no deal!!! i firmly believe sandy's side of the story.
Thanks for the informative clarification, Jill. Check out Allen Johnson's weblog for more information regarding "Truth and Reconciliation" discourse.
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